Saturday, October 03, 2009

Second time lucky

The Irish appear to have voted the right way when they were asked a second time round.

Opinion polls and informal exit polls indicate that the Irish will say "Yes" to the treaty - just 18 months after rejecting it in the first referendum...

Ireland's foreign minister predicted a convincing win for the "Yes" campaign.

"I am delighted for the country," Micheal Martin told Irish radio on Saturday.

Ireland's political establishment poured enough money into guaranteeing a YES vote - with the obligatory dollops of scaremongering and downright lying and defamation natch - but I suspect that they're not delighted for the country but for their own salary.

Of course, Ireland should never have had to have voted twice. Once was enough and it demonstrates the complete and utter disregard the EU and our political masters have for our opinions that Ireland was the only country to get a vote and that they had to be asked twice. What do we matter? We only pay the fucking bill.

From a personal point of view, the yes vote offers me the opportunity to firstly see which country Call Me Dave will hide behind now (will Klaus wait until a Tory victory in May?) and secondly I can't wait to see the reaction of the Irish yes voters and their dastardly politicians when their 'guarantees' are shredded by the legal entity which is the European Union.

If they're not included in any law then how are they legally binding? It's a question I expected the BBC to ask on one occasion at least but they're happy to promote the line that it will streamline the EU (fair point - it takes away the need for consensus and democracy is a tricky little blighter always getting in the way of their plans) and that the Irish have 'guarantees'.

Vote YES, get Blair. Although some of us have been pointing to that particular chestnut since December 2005 when rumours were rife he'd get the job if he'd slash the British rebate won for us by a decent Prime Minister.

Decent Prime Minister: there's a thought. Can't see one of those for the next 15 years.


Quiet_Man said...

I wonder how many Irish people will admit to having voted for Lisbon in 5 years time when all their guarantees have been self amended out of existence.

The Filthy Smoker said...

Best out of three?

The Minstrel Boy said...

R.I.P. Democracy and Freedom. It's unlikely that Britain will ever get to vote now. The 'yes' voters of Ireland have sold their sovereignty, freedom and independence for the EU's thirty pieces of silver. May God forgive them and have mercy on their souls, for they know not what they have done.
They soon will though! What kind of credibility has the EU now, when they have had to lie to, and bribe an entire nation to impose their corrupt ideals for a 'United States of Europe?

ukipwebmaster said...

One wonders if Dave is simply stalling so he won’t have to carry out his half-hearted promise?
This is the legal position taken from Mary Ellen Synon’s blog:

‘The legal position is clear. The Lisbon Treaty has to be ratified by all 27 states before it comes into force. Any time up to that point, the instrument of ratification of any state which has ratified can be revoked. If there is a general election before all 27 member states have ratified the treaty, then the United Kingdom can revoke its ratification. The treaty will then be dead unless the UK reinstates its ratification following a “Yes” vote in a referendum.’

‘However, if it is ratified by all 27 member states before the time of the general election, legally it takes effect and supersedes earlier treaties. Then it cannot be amended or revoked except by further treaty or an instrument equivalent to a treaty, such as a protocol. Britain would need to get agreement of all other member states for that.’