tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12147812.post8316579501955242187..comments2023-10-26T14:13:58.282+00:00Comments on Is there more to life than shoes?: Did you think a manifesto pledge meant something?Trixyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02015060663707102784noreply@blogger.comBlogger34125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12147812.post-48191014388477779972010-08-22T05:25:10.372+00:002010-08-22T05:25:10.372+00:00Oh yes, Gordon Brown, the Prime Minister, has just...Oh yes, Gordon Brown, the Prime Minister, has just told an open court that we shouldn't expect him to be telling the truth with his promises, and that no manifesto pledge can be considered to be binding in anyway.<br /><a href="http://errorfixweb.com/" rel="nofollow">error fix</a>davidbieber80https://www.blogger.com/profile/01723593197015652100noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12147812.post-35720973112848833852010-03-19T12:09:07.810+00:002010-03-19T12:09:07.810+00:00It’s great to see good information being shared.
...It’s great to see good information being shared.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.flashpapers.com/" rel="nofollow">Research papers</a>daniel johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02542612372929827946noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12147812.post-73267336976441800782008-02-13T10:43:00.000+00:002008-02-13T10:43:00.000+00:00Why? Does a court reporter have different ears or ...Why? Does a court reporter have different ears or can they hear different sounds? Like those buzzers to stop kids handing around shops?<BR/><BR/>I suspect that myself, the other 50people including the jounalists sitting next to me are all able to understand the English language without getting on our high horse and finding an excuse not to believe something they find uncomfortable.Trixyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02015060663707102784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12147812.post-10372169934270861352008-02-12T22:18:00.000+00:002008-02-12T22:18:00.000+00:00New Labour?LIARS?Is this a surprise? LOLNew Labour?<BR/><BR/>LIARS?<BR/><BR/>Is this a surprise? LOLSilent Hunterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12586061220673855660noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12147812.post-86496752608156377042008-02-12T09:07:00.000+00:002008-02-12T09:07:00.000+00:00No. Has any experienced, qualifed court reporter ...No. Has any experienced, qualifed court reporter corroborated it? That would be good enough.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12147812.post-40918031191235259432008-02-11T20:44:00.000+00:002008-02-11T20:44:00.000+00:00Re:”Can every political pledge be enforced in cont...Re:”<I>Can every political pledge be enforced in contract law? I would have thought that highly unlikely, and it doesn't need a smart-arsed barrister to say so.”</I><BR/><BR/>Maybe not - but what his lawyers said was entirely different; that none of them can be relied upon at all, more exactly a posh way of saying that… (watch my lips) <I>none of them can be believed</I>.<BR/><BR/>Oh and don’t forget Amy Winehouse the MSM will tell you all about that.CFD Edhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14176957304124700156noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12147812.post-53243044780211615142008-02-11T14:29:00.000+00:002008-02-11T14:29:00.000+00:00That this was said? Well, I was there in the room ...That this was said? Well, I was there in the room with about 50 other people. Good enough?Trixyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02015060663707102784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12147812.post-77323725307491551352008-02-11T13:11:00.000+00:002008-02-11T13:11:00.000+00:00Any proof yet?Any proof yet?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12147812.post-12250407028470401302008-02-08T20:10:00.000+00:002008-02-08T20:10:00.000+00:00I guess the point of the action is not (realistica...I guess the point of the action is not (realistically) to get the court to enforce the manifesto, but to bring full public glare onto the issue. And the MSM are failing in their job. The scary answer as to why, is that the MSM somehow receive funding from Europe…<BR/>What else explains their cowardly behaviour?Clunking Fisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18020166717482531977noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12147812.post-23584430641180837762008-02-08T17:10:00.000+00:002008-02-08T17:10:00.000+00:00Nice scoop.And we live in audacious times, where t...Nice scoop.<BR/><BR/>And we live in audacious times, where the Prime Minister has the gall to say he doesn't need to honour Manifesto pledges. In a fricking court! <BR/><BR/>Still, since the cunt is avoiding another election at all costs, he's not going to have another host of manifesto pledges to avoid...The Nameless Libertarianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10358775584645387212noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12147812.post-76283973635939527072008-02-08T11:57:00.000+00:002008-02-08T11:57:00.000+00:00Before everyone gets too carried away, it would be...Before everyone gets too carried away, it would be worthwhile reading what experienced, qualified court reporters have written on this case.<BR/><BR/>Also, Mike Wood's question deserves an answer.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12147812.post-24501480570200115082008-02-08T10:07:00.000+00:002008-02-08T10:07:00.000+00:00We don't have elections anymore. We have different...We don't have elections anymore. We have different groups bidding for the GB franchise. One lot says "we can run the country for this amount" and the other lot say "If we win the franchise we will only charge you this and we will do this etc, etc" The group that bids the lowest and/or succeeds in bribing the electorate with false promises gets the right to rip us off. Surely everybody understands that?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12147812.post-71401645104543069392008-02-08T09:57:00.000+00:002008-02-08T09:57:00.000+00:00from earlier...."The manifesto pledge referred to ...from earlier...."The manifesto pledge referred to the Constitutional Treaty. That Treaty is abandoned which is why there is no referendum on it."<BR/><BR/>This is ballshit. They are one and the same. If you think they are different go to the bottom of the class!<BR/><BR/>Sorry but that argument doesnt hold up to scrutiny. (as Trixy says above)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12147812.post-38054824729514737612008-02-08T09:15:00.000+00:002008-02-08T09:15:00.000+00:00I know what the manifesto said, thanks, but I also...I know what the manifesto said, thanks, but I also know that the Constitutional Treaty and the Lisbon Treaty are the same thing. The reason we are not allowed a referendum is because we would vote no and the EU don't want that. That is why Sarkozy did not let the French have one because, as he said to the Conference of Presidents in the European Parliament, 'If we had one then the British would have one and they would say no'Trixyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02015060663707102784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12147812.post-56726850575248395032008-02-07T23:28:00.000+00:002008-02-07T23:28:00.000+00:00"Your honour I have to suggest to this court that ..."Your honour I have to suggest to this court that as my client Mr Gordon 'The Weasel' Brown is known for having a relationship with truth that is as strained as the elastic in the g-string of an exceptionally obese male balloon dancer, that no reliance can be placed upon the words of my client, whatsoever. Except, of course, when he tells me that my cheque is in the post."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12147812.post-9453798338654701242008-02-07T23:20:00.000+00:002008-02-07T23:20:00.000+00:00I just emailed the approprate bit of this to my (L...I just emailed the approprate bit of this to my (Labour) MP and asked him if he thinks expectations based on manifesto pledges are legitimate.<BR/><BR/>I'll send you his response. If he bothers, that is.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12147812.post-39113973703381819702008-02-07T22:55:00.000+00:002008-02-07T22:55:00.000+00:00Gordon Brown, is there more to life than lies?Gordon Brown, is there more to life than lies?Tapestryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17267094484651413428noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12147812.post-62264161974605207732008-02-07T21:01:00.000+00:002008-02-07T21:01:00.000+00:00Being not merely able to read but eager to do so t...Being not merely able to read but eager to do so to check what I say is accurate, I can confirm that the 2005 manifesto pledge definitely referred to the Constitutional Treaty. It's on pages 83-84 of the manifesto: "The new Constitutional Treaty ensures the new Europe can work effectively, and that Britain keeps control of key national interests .. We will put it to the British people in a referendum". Note "it" not "any and all future treaties".<BR/><BR/>It is an established principle of law that political manifestos are not legally enforcable - see Bromley L.B.C. v. G.L.C. ([1982] 2 W.L.R. 62.David Boothroydhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01161970886471901426noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12147812.post-3762179568061481512008-02-07T20:11:00.000+00:002008-02-07T20:11:00.000+00:00Ah, Mr Boothroyd. Are you not able to read?I don't...Ah, Mr Boothroyd. Are you not able to read?<BR/><BR/>I don't have the transcripts yet, but as I was sitting in the court room at the time I was making notes, and that comment I wrote down verbatim. <BR/><BR/>Alas the MSM seem to be ignoring that inconvenient little phrase...Trixyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02015060663707102784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12147812.post-52749794998758869072008-02-07T17:46:00.000+00:002008-02-07T17:46:00.000+00:00Any idea why the story on the UKIP site seems to h...Any idea why the story on the UKIP site seems to have been taken down?Mike Woodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05016813232626327117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12147812.post-86682564064111865172008-02-07T15:31:00.000+00:002008-02-07T15:31:00.000+00:00The manifesto pledge referred to the Constitutiona...The manifesto pledge referred to the Constitutional Treaty. That Treaty is abandoned which is why there is no referendum on it. If Mr Bower wants a referendum on an abandoned Treaty which is not going to be put into effect, good luck to him, but it's a bit of a waste of money.David Boothroydhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01161970886471901426noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12147812.post-398666218387195802008-02-07T15:30:00.000+00:002008-02-07T15:30:00.000+00:00When I read the comments, I sprayed tea all over m...When I read the comments, I sprayed tea all over my screen.<BR/><BR/>So here is the state of our democracy:<BR/><BR/>1) Every four or five years, a clique of people at the top of some parties make promises which secretly, according to the barrister, should not be listened to, because they are worthless, and try to win control of our power on the basis of these promises.<BR/><BR/><BR/>2) The winning oligarchs then take our power and do what the feck they want, regardless of what they promised or what we the people whose power they stole, or even what their own MPs think about it, whipping where necessary to threaten people to do as they are told.<BR/><BR/>3) If this coercive process is too embarrassing, they even curtail parliamentary debate so their red cheeks are spared a little.<BR/><BR/>...<BR/><BR/>In what way is this democracy? How dare we lecture other places in the world.<BR/><BR/>We have oligarchs elected on lies.<BR/><BR/>It's time to put power back in the hands of the MPs in parliament, and it's time to make leaders accountable for the things they promise.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12147812.post-78631344506391390912008-02-07T14:46:00.000+00:002008-02-07T14:46:00.000+00:00Well done, except that this story - a great story ...Well done, except that this story - a great story - is currently being ignored by the MSM, as is the quite important victory by the SNP in winning the vote over the Scottish Budget, leaving the vaccuous Labour Party looking like prancing tits.Wrinkled Weaselhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05291551539649118631noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12147812.post-54847240216025984992008-02-07T14:40:00.000+00:002008-02-07T14:40:00.000+00:00If this is true, this is really terrifying. Have y...If this is true, this is really terrifying. <BR/>Have you got a link to the transcripts?Rachel Joycehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16442745344093829248noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12147812.post-41952659552794612272008-02-07T14:24:00.000+00:002008-02-07T14:24:00.000+00:00Does anyone remember on Air Traffic Control "Our a...Does anyone remember on Air Traffic Control "Our air is not for sale".<BR/>It should be illegal to go back on a manifesto pledge - it's misrepresentation.Twighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16698620636313191152noreply@blogger.com